Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

04/25/2007 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 119 SCHOOL LIBRARY GRANTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 119 Out of Committee
*+ SR 3 REQUEST REMOVAL OF REGENT HAYES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                         April 25, 2007                                                                                         
                           1:36 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bettye Davis, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Joe Thomas, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator John Cowdery                                                                                                            
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Tom Wagoner                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 119                                                                                                             
"An Act establishing a grant program to support public school                                                                   
libraries."                                                                                                                     
     MOVED SB 119 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATE RESOLUTION NO. 3                                                                                                         
Relating to consideration by the Senate of impeachment of James                                                                 
C. Hayes, University of Alaska regent.                                                                                          
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 119                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SCHOOL LIBRARY GRANTS                                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) OLSON                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/14/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/14/07       (S)       HES, FIN                                                                                               
04/25/07       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SR   3                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REQUEST REMOVAL OF REGENT HAYES                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WAGONER                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
02/26/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/26/07       (S)       HES, STA, JUD                                                                                          
04/25/07       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Denise Liccioli, staff to Senator Olson                                                                                         
Alaska Capitol Building                                                                                                         
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SB 119                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Cathy Boutin, representing herself                                                                                              
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Lynn McNamara, librarian                                                                                                        
Scenic Park Elementary                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Barb Bryson, district librarian                                                                                                 
City of Valdez                                                                                                                  
Valdez, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Kari Sagel, representing herself                                                                                                
Sitka, AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Charlotte Glover, representing herself                                                                                          
Ketchikan, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Tiki Levinson, representing herself                                                                                             
Delta Junction, AK                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Barbara Nagengast, principal                                                                                                    
Spring Hill Elementary School                                                                                                   
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 119                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas Wagner                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SR 3.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BETTYE  DAVIS  called the  Senate  Health,  Education  and                                                             
Social Services  Standing Committee  meeting to order  at 1:36:15                                                             
PM. All members were present at the call to order.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                  SB 119-SCHOOL LIBRARY GRANTS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37 :24 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BETTYE DAVIS announced SB 119 to be up for consideration.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DENISE  LICCIOLI, staff  to  Senator Olson,  sponsor  of SB  119,                                                               
explained  that  the bill  will  establish  a grant  program  for                                                               
public  school library  acquisitions.  Individual school  library                                                               
budget shortfalls have impacted  many libraries across the state;                                                               
they  must  use inter-library  loans  to  participate in  reading                                                               
programs like  Battle of  the Books. The  program will  provide a                                                               
means  to update  atlases and  other books  that go  out of  date                                                               
quickly  and   that  are   necessary  for   supporting  classroom                                                               
curriculum   standards.   The   Alaska  Association   of   School                                                               
Librarians supports the legislation  and suggests funding a $2500                                                               
annual grant  for larger  libraries and a  $750 annual  grant for                                                               
smaller  libraries with  five or  fewer teachers.  The bill  will                                                               
help produce better readers at all grade levels.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:40:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY BOUTIN,  representing herself,  talked about  how expensive                                                               
books are for school libraries and  gave examples of how the bill                                                               
could  help  increase their  book,  DVD,  and periodical  stocks.                                                               
Online encyclopedias are also important but expensive.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:43:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked if the  current bill language would allow for                                                               
DVD purchases.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOUTIN replied  that it may have been left  out but she could                                                               
clarify that with Senator Olson's staff.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON remarked  that  a lot  of  information comes  from                                                               
computers nowadays, and asked why  there's not a provision in the                                                               
bill for computer hardware or operating software.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOUTIN replied  that there  were materials  provided to  the                                                               
committee explaining why books are  still important for learning.                                                               
A lot of information on the internet isn't necessarily accurate.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNN MCNAMARA,  librarian for Scenic  Park Elementary,  said that                                                               
students don't necessarily  have a lot of access  to computers in                                                               
school; books  are more readily  available, and are  an equalizer                                                               
for  both  rural and  urban  communities  without access  to  the                                                               
internet. Internet  information is difficult to  sift through, as                                                               
well, and accuracy is spotty.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She  explained that  the materials  purchased  for libraries  are                                                               
based  on the  subjects that  students tend  to study  in certain                                                               
levels of school. A study has  shown that even people who use the                                                               
internet often  tend to  use books as  well. Book  information is                                                               
accurate and  is aimed at  students in applicable ways.  She then                                                               
related a personal  story about the differences  between book and                                                               
internet learning.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:51:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARB  BRYSON, Valdez  school district  librarian,  said that  the                                                               
Alaska Association  of School Librarians  and the  Alaska Library                                                               
Association support the bill. There  should be an annual grant of                                                               
up to $2500 for public  school libraries; the bill would parallel                                                               
the already  existing state-supported libraries. The  grant would                                                               
help purchase  a wide  variety of resources  to aid  in learning.                                                               
The average budget  for public school libraries in  Alaska is low                                                               
compared with  national averages.  She cited the  state standards                                                               
for  library  functions,  and said  that  school  libraries  need                                                               
adequate funds to fulfill these duties.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:54:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KARI SAGEL, representing herself,  said that school libraries are                                                               
important  for students  prepping  for  standardized testing  and                                                               
keeping  up  with curriculum.  The  book  budget  has had  to  be                                                               
supplemented with  other fundraising  methods. Books  often focus                                                               
on specific topics  more often than internet  information, and so                                                               
are an  important part of  learning. The implementation  of state                                                               
standards has created  a need for new  information and resources,                                                               
and for  maximum student use  materials need to available  in the                                                               
library although not limited to curriculum subjects.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:57:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLOTTE  GLOVER, representing  herself,  said that  she runs  a                                                               
statewide  essay  program  for  fulfilling  need  from  different                                                               
libraries across  the state. Libraries  must raise funds  for new                                                               
books themselves, and  there's also a huge  strain transferred to                                                               
public  libraries because  of interlibrary  loans;  kids need  to                                                               
have access to good reading material.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:59:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIKI LEVINSON, representing herself,  said that a solid education                                                               
is based  on available information  in libraries.  She referenced                                                               
how out  of date  schools' libraries are,  and how  materials can                                                               
become damaged.  Current collections  need to  be shored  up with                                                               
additional material.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA NAGENGAST,  principal of  Spring Hill  Elementary School,                                                               
said that libraries are the heart  of schools. A key component of                                                               
study  findings   is  that  school  libraries   are  critical  to                                                               
producing  people  who  read throughout  their  lives.  Workforce                                                               
development is  also greatly influenced  by teaching kids  how to                                                               
read.  If students  are to  be well-prepared  for life  and work,                                                               
they need to be good readers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:05:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  moved  to  report SB  119  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON commented  that he hoped the committee  would go on                                                               
to hear  the next piece  of legislation even without  the members                                                               
who had to  leave, and that he was sorry  the subject had reached                                                               
the  point  where the  legislature  even  needs to  consider  the                                                               
resolution.  There are  other  options for  the  person the  bill                                                               
addresses,  like choosing  to  step down  from  his position.  He                                                               
added that he  appreciates the idea behind the bill,  and if it's                                                               
the only way to resolve the matter he supports it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
             SR   3-REQUEST REMOVAL OF REGENT HAYES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DAVIS announced SR 3 to be under consideration.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER, sponsor  of SR 3, said that Senator  Elton has a                                                               
lot of the same feelings about  the bill as he does. He commented                                                               
that he  is a graduate  of the University  of Alaska (UA),  and a                                                               
lot of  students have  contacted him about  the issue;  they have                                                               
clearly said  that Mr. Hayes should  step down from the  Board of                                                               
Regents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He  went  over  the  language   in  the  sponsor  statement,  and                                                               
explained that ethics  should be as important for  the UA regents                                                               
as they  are for legislators.  It's important to remove  even the                                                               
appearance of  questionable behavior;  Mr. Hayes was  indicted in                                                               
January  2007,  and  because   he's  under  investigation  should                                                               
voluntarily step  down from office  without having to  be pressed                                                               
on the matter.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WAGONER cited  other examples  of  politicians who  have                                                               
stepped down from office while  under investigation. He clarified                                                               
that the  SR is not  a statement of  guilt, but a  statement that                                                               
Mr.  Hayes should  step down  from the  UA board  of regents  and                                                               
remove  the  appearance of  unethical  behavior  from his  public                                                               
office. The  case means  that Mr.  Hayes' attention  is currently                                                               
focused on  his personal issues  rather than UA  matters. Someone                                                               
with the time and energy to  commit to the regents' duties should                                                               
be serving on the board, and not Mr. Hayes.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:11:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  explained two  items included  in  a packet  provided to  the                                                               
committee that  showed that  Mr. Hayes  used undue  influence for                                                               
the  actions under  investigation,  and improper  use  of the  UA                                                               
seal.  He   asked  the  committee   to  consider   advancing  the                                                               
resolution at the first available moment.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WAGONER added  that  the fiscal  note  is premature;  it                                                               
assumes that the legislature will  be meeting in special session,                                                               
which won't necessarily  be the case. The issue  could be handled                                                               
for less  money, and it won't  necessarily take a long  time. The                                                               
bill is  being brought forward  to urge  Mr. Hayes to  step down,                                                               
and contact the governor if need be.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:15:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked if Mr.  Hayes is still being reimbursed for                                                               
being a regent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER replied the reimbursement isn't significant.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY asked  if Mr.  Hayes was  paid anything  for the                                                               
meetings he missed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER replied he was not;  over the past year he missed                                                               
over 50 percent of the board meetings.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked if Mr. Hayes is under indictment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER replied that he is.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked if a date has been set for the trial.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WAGONER  replied  he  believes  the  trial  is  set  for                                                               
September, but may be postponed.  He added that the indictment is                                                               
ongoing,  and has  been  expanded to  include  more charges.  The                                                               
situation is a serious one.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS  commented that the  bill could  not be moved  at the                                                               
time due  to lack of  a quorum; it  would be re-heard  at another                                                               
date. She  pointed out  that the  UA has  said that  people often                                                               
miss regent meetings, and it's not  in and of itself a reason for                                                               
being  removed. There  are  people who  think  that the  governor                                                               
should remove  the regent, but  the attorney general  advised her                                                               
against  it.  She added  that  she  was  hoping that  the  matter                                                               
wouldn't  have  to come  to  an  SR,  but  that it's  the  proper                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER pointed out that  Mr. Hayes had a good attendance                                                               
record  until  the  indictment  came  up;  his  absences  started                                                               
immediately after.   He added that other  community boards around                                                               
the  state  have  stipulations   for  member  removal  after  two                                                               
subsequent unexcused absences.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked if the UA board has that stipulation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER said that it  doesn't; he referenced his own work                                                               
with the UA, and said that  of all his regent acquaintances, none                                                               
have had poor attendance records.  A high sense of responsibility                                                               
seems to be the norm for regents.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SR 3 was held in committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Davis adjourned the meeting at 2:22:37 PM.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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